The Pedophile Elephant in the Gay Activist Closet

Filed under Sexuality & Gender on November 15th, 2011 by Michael L. Brown

While millions of Americans are rightly sickened and outraged over the alleged pedophile acts of Jerry Sandusky at Penn State, millions more are totally unaware that gay activists have conveniently swept homosexual pedophilia under the rug.

To be clear, I personally believe that the great majority of homosexual men also deplore Sandusky’s alleged acts. At the same time, there is a very large pedophile elephant that is hiding in the gay activist closet. Dare we expose it?

Let’s start with our children’s schools, where GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight, Education Network, has long advocated for the celebration of homosexual history, using tools like “North American History Game Cards,” where elementary school children learn that famous Americans like Allen Ginsberg and Walt Whitman were gay.

What the children don’t learn is that if Whitman was a homosexual, he was also a pederast, that Ginsberg was a defender of NAMBLA, the notorious North American Man Boy Love Association, and that he (in)famously said, “Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance. . . . I’m a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too — everybody does, who has a little humanity.”

During a radio interview earlier this year on the Rick Amato show, Jimmy LaSalvia of GOProud stated, “I happen to think that a good school teacher, when they’re teaching literature, would mention that Oscar Wilde, when they’re teaching his work, would mention that Oscar Wilde was locked in an asylum because he was gay.”

Would they also mention that he was a boy lover and that he wrote about his passionate sexual encounters with young teens no older than some of the boys allegedly molested by Sandusky?

As noted by Jim Kepner, formerly curator of the International Gay and Lesbian Archives in Los Angeles, “If we reject the boylovers in our midst today we’d better stop waving the banner of the Ancient Greeks, of Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Oscar Wilde, Walt Whitman, [and others]. We’d better stop claiming them as part of our heritage unless we are broadening our concept of what it means to be gay today.” (There is, of course, dispute about the sexuality of some of these men on the list, but if, in fact, they were homosexual, they were also pederasts.)

And remember that SB 48, mandating the celebration of LGBT history in all California schools for all children in all grades, is now law.

The outrage over the alleged pedophile acts of Sandusky is only matched by the gay silence over the alleged pedophile (or pederast) acts of Oscar Wilde, Walt Whitman, and others.

There is already a Harvey Milk Day in California, commemorating the life and death of this gay pioneer politician who has also been celebrated in an Academy Award winning film, but there’s more to the Harvey Milk story.

According to the acclaimed gay journalist Randy Shilts, at age eleven, Milk began attending performances of the New York Metropolitan Opera where he met with “wandering hands,” and soon was engaged in “brief trysts [with grown men] after the performances.” While still in junior high, he “dove headfirst into the newly discovered subculture,” and by the age of fourteen, Milk was “leading an active homosexual life.” As he grew older, the pattern reversed itself to the point that, at age thirty-three, Milk hooked up with a sixteen-year-old named Jack McKinley, one of a number of younger men with whom he was intimate.

And our kids celebrate Harvey Milk Day in their schools? Will they also celebrate the memory of Harry Hay, widely considered to be the founder of America’s gay liberation movement and another well-known friend of NAMBLA? When a gay pride parade in Los Angeles banned NAMBLA from participating, Hay decided to march in the parade carrying a sign that said, “NAMBLA walks with me.”

From 2001-2006, Yale University’s LGBT program was greatly helped by the Larry Kramer Initiative for Lesbian and Gay Studies, named after the famous gay activist and author. Kramer too was a NAMBLA supporter, and in a 2004 speech in New York City, he spoke of a “sweet young boy who didn’t know anything and was in awe of me. I was the first man who [had sex with] him. I think I murdered him” (meaning, by infecting him with AIDS). Where is the gay outcry over this?

And what are we to make of these statements by Kramer, proudly quoted by NAMBLA? “In those cases where children do have sex with their homosexual elders . . . I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it, either because of a natural curiosity . . . or because he or she is homosexual and innately knows it.” He even claimed that, “And unlike girls or women forced into rape or traumatized, most gay men have warm memories of their earliest and early sexual encounters; when we share these stories with each other, they are invariably positive ones.”

This is despicable, deplorable, and disgusting, yet Kramer remains a revered figure in gay activist circles.

And I haven’t said a word about gay activist attempts to reduce (or repeal!) the age of consent in different countries, including America (see, for example, the 1972 Gay Rights Platform), but the inescapable truth is clear: The gay activist closet has been opened, and the pedophile elephant is there.

Let gay activists demonstrate their categorical rejection of all forms of pedophilia and pederasty by denouncing its very obvious presence in gay history (from the ancient Greeks to Harvey Milk), by renouncing all gay attempts to lower (or eliminate) the age of consent, and by agreeing not to sexualize our children’s education.

Will they do that, or will they attack the messenger? We shall see.

(Everything cited in this article is carefully and painfully documented in A Queer Thing Happened to America.)

Dr. Michael Brown is the author of A Queer Thing Happened to America and the host of the nationally syndicated talk radio show The Line of Fire on the Salem Radio Network.


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  1. Dr. Brown,

    On the onenewsnow.com website (American Family Association), you wrote an article entitled “What could end Rush Limbaugh’s career?”

    You appealed to Rush; “Speak up, Rush, and don’t be afraid. Surely you have the guts.”

    Well there is someone who spoke about the Penn State atrocity, at least in print, and his name is Brian Fischer. Although I love to listen to his radio show, my work usually doesn’t allow it, so I don’t know if he actually spoke about it on-the-air.

    You may already know this, but if not check out his blog at:
    http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147513752

  2. Makes me sick.. Lord have mercy please Lord have mercy.

  3. I just wrote a note to RL staff asking if this INDEED was RL’s intent. This linking would not have been on my list of top ten, but perhaps MB has some insider info I do not. I asked for a reply and sent him the link to this post. Hey, maybe he will applaud MB for being so brave as to speak what he does not dare.

  4. Kathy, it appears that you’re speaking about this article, about Rush Limbaugh, on the OneNewsNow site, http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1478460 a, rather than the present one, here. Either way, I’m eager to find out as well, and as you know, I end that article saying “IF.” That being said, I have been told my numerous media insiders that homosexual issues are off limits for some of the biggest voices out there. It’s actually pretty well known. As for Rush, it would be great to hear him comment on this, and again, I’m assuming you sent him the right link.

  5. Dave, thanks for posting this. I was aware of Brian’s comments, but if I’m correct, he put his emphasis on same-sex parenting, which was not my focus or emphasis here.

  6. Obama to Pardon Child Molester Sandusky

    It was revealed today in leaked White House memos that President B H Obama is set to grant a full pardon to infamous Penn State pederast Jerry Sandusky.

    College Football was shaken by revelations that Coach Joe Paterno allowed Sandusky access to the campus after it had been revealed that Sandusky was exploiting young boys for homosexual rape.

    In a shocking development Obama Administration officials Chai Feldblum and Arne Duncan lobbied the President on behalf “the LGBT community” to pardon Sandusky and sought to characterize homosexuals who rape young boys as “Minor Attracted Persons” in keeping with the U.S. Department of Health (DOH) declaring children are “sexual beings”.

    The U.S DOH states that minors “.. may ‘experiment’ sexually with members of the same sex regardless of whether they are gay or straight.” So according to the DOH, Penn State was simply helping boys experiment sexually with members of the same sex, namely coach Sandusky.

    It is speculated that President Obama will seek to award the Medal of Freedom to Coach Sandusky for his “tireless efforts at recruiting for the ‘gay’ community” and repeal of DOMA as well as combating “hatred, intolerance and homophobia and racism.”- the addition of “racism” as evidently due to Sandusky’s preference for abusing boys “of color” who were in his care.

    Obama’s speech is said to make reference to Harvey Milk proudly marching alongside members of NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) in the 1970′s and commends Coach Sandusky as a “pioneer” in “civil rights for all Americans.”

    http://elvisnixon.com/2011/11/13/obama-to-pardon-sandusky.aspx

  7. On the larger (and very troubling) question of pedophilia in general, this is a helpful link from the Mayo Clinic. http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/82/4/457.full

  8. Elvis,

    I sure hope no one thinks you are serious — although your sarcasm is well placed!

  9. Dear Dr. Brown,

    It is with a very heavy heart that I write to you today. This week has been a giant whirlwind, first I read your article, and then I sat and watched “For the Bible tells me so”! First things first, the article was an eye opener; I posted it to my Facebook account. The odd thing is there has been nothing but silence ever since I posted it, which is strange for me, because I usually post things of a spiritual nature on my page and get several responses. The article must have struck a nerve, but I hope and pray that they will think about it, and decide to take a stand with me in our community.
    Secondly I mentioned that I watched “For the Bible tells me so”; to explain a few things to set the context, I work for a community college, a very liberal one at that. The State of Illinois has not yet ratified Gay marriage; however, our college has decided to extend benefits to what is being labeled as “life partners”. Along with that there has been concerted effort to promote diversity on campus. I have even spoke to a faculty member whose office is adjacent to mine about a very interesting poster that he posted on his door; it was a poster that stated that “marriage is between a man and a women” He told me that it was in response to our mutual neighbor who is openly Gay and posts GLBT pamphlets on her door. He further explained that his posters are often liberated from his door, but humorously, he said that he has made several copies and he will replace it. To prepare for the GLBT sponsored movie, I purchased the kindle edition of “A Queer Thing Happened to America”. However, I feel like I was woefully unprepared for the aggressively subversive gay production. There are so many things that happened that night, that it would be hard to adequately express myself in this forum. I will say that I was humbled by the many young and broken lives that came, and at the same time appalled at the blatant miss use of the Bible, by clergy no less.
    In closing I just want to express my deepest thanks to Dr. Brown for his valiant efforts to speak the truth in a loving manner, without malice or ill will. I pray that the Lord would further bless him and his staff, and further empower him to get the truth out there.

    Thank you
    Lou

  10. For the record, Rush Limbaugh has acknowledged the truth of what I wrote in the article “What Could End Rush Limbaugh’s Career?” posted on OneNewsNow.com and Townhall.com. For the relevant discussion on his broadcast today, go here:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/11/18/caller_three_fer_penn_state_macs_vs_pcs_and_occupy_as_domestic_terrorists

  11. Yes Dr Brown that is my attempt at Jonathan Swift- type satire

    Sadly the potential for the story to be true is and accurate in the very near future is extremely strong!

  12. Dr. Brown,

    Have any gay activists responded to this article in a helpful way? (That is, to your knowledge, have any gay activists yet acknowledged that pedophilia and pederasty have existed in gay history?)

    Also, why not reproduce the relevant documentation from your book and include it all in this article? You may think it would keep people from buying your book, but I see no reason why you wouldn’t want to show those who may be inclined to “shoot the messenger” the evidence on which you base all these claims. Especially when some of your critics will probably not read your book.

    Blessings,
    Ben

  13. Ben,

    To date I’m not aware of any constructive discussion from gay activists on this but only of reviling of my position here. As for producing documentation, a short internet article is not the place for scores of endnotes which back the position I’m laying out here, which is one reason I wrote a detailed and thorough book. But any gay activist who wanted to read the book and wasn’t willing to buy it can simply write to me and request a review copy.

  14. Sign of the times.

  15. Shocking.

  16. Elvis, understood!

  17. [...] brightmorningstar, Check out this link: The Pedophile Elephant in the Gay Activist Closet – Voice of Revolution Pederasty is the name of the [...]

  18. I posted this link on a Facebook page called Project Morality with *no* commentary. The homosexuals on that page became enrages and reported the link as pornography and had it deleted. Another fine example of the ad hominem school of rhetoric right along with “shut them up” school of intellectual discourse.

  19. [...] Great Article From Dr. BrownThe Pedophile Elephant in the Gay Activist Closet – Voice of Revolution [...]

  20. This is so sad…. Dreading the day that this is taught in every public school…. Time to make a change…

  21. How long will it take for the next new “tolerated” lifestyle is between adults and children? The way our culture and the media have proped up the gay movement how long until we continue our dive into the perverse abyss and this topic becomes the next new thing to show up in “civil rights” laws? All it would take is someone claiming discrimation and a liberal judge to approve it.

  22. Dr. Brown,

    Thank you for your article. I’m seeing comments asking about a response from a homosexual activist. I do not consider myself an activist but I am a homosexual. I am also a Christian, a son, a brother, an American, a college graduate, a historian etc etc. I found your article interesting, even when I disagreed, and I apologize if people have attacked you for putting out your point of view. We have free speech in America and you have a right to speak your mind and let others choose if they want to listen to you or not. I hope you will allow my comment to go along with your post in that same spirit. I have questions after reading your article (for example–if you aren’t sure they were homosexuals how can you be sure they were committing sexual acts with male children?) which will spur me to do my own research so thank you.

    I don’t expect everyone to agree with me here but I offer my perspective in the hope that it will give your readers food for thought as your article did for me Dr. Brown. Here is my response:

    First off you ask homosexuals to come forward and denounce all pedophilia. I would counter that request but asserting that most cases of pedophilia are committed by HETEROSEXUAL men not homosexual men (even adjusting for their relative population sizes), usually a trusted friend or family member. Yet all straight people are never asked to denounce sexual crimes against children every time a case is reported. This is as it should be because it would be absurd to judge all straight people based on the actions of one straight person. As absurd as judging all gay people based on the action of one gay person. There is as much diversity within the gay community as there is in the straight community, a fact that is often overlooked.

    Secondly, the main point of your article seems to be about recent debates on whether or not Americans who were gay should be called gay in the classroom. My understanding of your argument is that we shouldn’t talk about certain Americans who were gay in schools because of the comments they made about NAMBLA or the sexual relationships they’ve entered into. Well what about the straight people we talk about in classrooms? Straight people like Ben Franklin who had numerous illegitimate children (something I was taught in grade school). Or Thomas Jefferson who raped his slaves and had children by them (learned at 11 years old). What about the sexual life of JFK? MLK Jr, claiming to be a Christian, committed adultery. None of these men could be called sexually pure but we still talk about them in the classroom. Why? Because of their accomplishments. Because of the overall picture. We don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. The fact is, since we’re all sinners, anyone who is examined close enough will fall short of being the perfect example to our children. That’s why we should send our children to church so they can learn about the example of Jesus Christ.

    Now there is a lot of fear that talking about gay people in school will be “sexualizing our children’s education”. I agree that that is something we should be aware of and guard against. But we also need to teach our children facts. Even the facts we may not like. Facts like gay people exist. That they have existed since the dawn of man. And that they will continue to exist long after all of us reading this are dead. As unhappy as that may make some people, any serious person can admit that. So it is not a moral decision to say “Michelangelo was gay” it is merely a statement of fact. Should we be talking about how gay people express their love and sexual feelings for each other to grade schoolers? Or what certain men said about sexual relationships between men and boys? No, of course not, and again no serious person is suggesting that. But I think it is interesting to know, and something kids can handle, to learn that the artistic genius who was paid by the church to paint the Sistine Chapel, one of the most iconic religious works of art ever, was a homosexual. That’s all that needs to be said. Then it’s up to the parents (along with the church they choose to belong to) to teach what they personally feel about homosexuality. The same way a kid coming home learning about the civil rights movement from school might need to be taught by his/her parents that in their family marriage outside of one’s race will not be tolerated.

    The goal of starting to mention that notable Americans have been gay is to make it a better environment for all students. Every mother’s straight son, particularly if he is a good and kind boy, has probably been called a homosexual slur at some point in his school days, or he will be. All boys have to deal with it. They are afraid to show empathy, to not participate in or at least cheer on violence and bullying in the schools. Because showing weakness or emotion or concern for others makes you gay, which is the worst thing you can be. So tolerance for homosexuals in the schools will mean more tolerance for all kids, particularly the boys who are routinely seen as too soft. Like the boys who are trying to go against the pack and live according to the idea of WWJD. But now imagine for a second that you are a teenager back in school and all of a sudden you come to the realization that you are gay. I know you’re not, but imagine just for a second. Imagine you actually are the worst thing that you could possibly be. And you know it isn’t a phase. You know you can’t change it–through prayer or any other means. And you know of no gay people out there who are living decent, family oriented lives like the one you want to live. That right there is why so many of our young American children are still taking their lives. Because of the way they were born. Now imagine that while learning about amazing artists like Michelangelo, or Da Vinci or poets like Walt Whitman or maybe even President James Buchanan or even George W. Bush’s reelection campaign manager and chair of the RNC Ken Mehlman you learned that these people were also gay. Maybe then you would know that you could live a worthwhile wholesome and virtuous life and you wouldn’t feel the need to take such drastic action. Even if you think the behavior is a sin, wouldn’t even Christ, especially Christ, do what he could to keep children from falling so far into despair that they would take their own life?

    Thank you for reading and considering my perspective. God bless you and yours.

    –Ryan

  23. Ryan,

    Thanks so much for taking the time to respond and for doing so in such an irenic spirit. I will respond in kind.

    Re: some of the alleged homosexuals from the past, you note, “if you aren’t sure they were homosexuals how can you be sure they were committing sexual acts with male children?”

    We do know, of course, that Oscar Wilde was homosexual and that he also wrote about his pederastic encounters, so there’s no real dispute there. As for others, we know about some very close relationships they had with much younger men (that would constitute pederasty, if sexual), and that is some of the evidence used to point to their alleged homosexuality, hence my statement.

    You wrote: “First off you ask homosexuals to come forward and denounce all pedophilia. I would counter that request but asserting that most cases of pedophilia are committed by HETEROSEXUAL men not homosexual men (even adjusting for their relative population sizes), usually a trusted friend or family member. Yet all straight people are never asked to denounce sexual crimes against children every time a case is reported. This is as it should be because it would be absurd to judge all straight people based on the actions of one straight person. As absurd as judging all gay people based on the action of one gay person. There is as much diversity within the gay community as there is in the straight community, a fact that is often overlooked.”

    Actually, the reaction of heterosexuals to reports of heterosexual pedophilia constitutes an instant denouncing of those acts. We immediately voice our shock and disapproval. Moreover, we have no heterosexual pedophile history that we boast of – God forbid! – whereas gays point to ancient Greece and to famous pederasts of the past, while some contemporary gay icons support NAMBLA (and note that there is no organization called NAMGLA!). So, the homosexual community can’t have it both ways, celebrating pederasty of the past but denouncing it today. All of it must be denounced. Finally, at no time did I judge “all gay people based on the action of one gay person.” To the contrary, I went out of my way to say that was not the point I was making, and I’m truly surprised that you could even raise that point.

    Your next point has more substance to it, namely, that I argue against celebrating gay icons in school, one reason being that they supported organizations like NAMBLA or themselves had sordid sexual histories, whereas, as you point out, some of our great American pioneers were anything but pristine. In response: 1) There is debate about the private lives of some of our pioneers, but I have no problem teaching about their moral failures as well, to the extent we have factual information. In contrast, these gay icons are on record for celebrating sexual perversion and even illegal acts. They have no business being lionized in our children’s schools. 2) More broadly, why in the world should we be celebrating someone whose claim to fame is that he or she was a sexual libertarian or a radical sexual activist? Do we teach them, for example, about famous porn stars just because they’re famous? Do we celebrate Hugh Hefner in our schools, or do we speak of his destructive influence on contemporary society (perhaps to high school students), if he is mentioned at all?

    You argue that we should teach our kids that “Michelangelo was gay,” and that we should recognize that gay people exist and therefore teach that to children. Well, so do sado-masochists. Do we teach our children about them too? So do people who practice bestiality. Do we teach our children about them? And if we learned that some great composer also practiced bestiality, should we tell that to our children? Where do we draw the line if your sole criteria is, “These people exist, and our kids should know.”

    Aside from the fact that there remains debate about Michelangelo’s sexuality, along with the question of possible pederasty, you also miss the point that homosexuality has to do with romantic attraction and sexual behavior – in other words, it has nothing to do with who the person actually is. In fact, the category of “homosexual” is relatively recent, as I’m sure you know, so we’re simply talking about who people had sex with in the past. Why does that matter? And if some of these men were anything but open about their sexuality – in fact, if some of them were homosexual, they were definitely closeted – why try to “out” them centuries later, especially to school children? (By the way, if it could be established that Michelangelo was a pederast, would you want the kids to know that too?) You also seem to forget that several billion people worldwide believe that homosexual behavior is sinful and wrong, including hundreds of millions of Christians who revere God’s Word and God’s ways. So, you are now introducing a moral category, not something like skin color or ethnicity.

    Finally, we have no business introducing these categories to little children at all, as I have repeatedly emphasized. There are plenty of kids who are even in middle school who don’t know what “gay” or “straight,” mean, since it’s not an issue for kids who have not yet been sexualized and if they’re not exposed to the media bombardment, it might not even come up among their friends either.

    You claim that “tolerance for homosexuals in the schools will mean more tolerance for all kids, particularly the boys who are routinely seen as too soft.” Actually, you have this backwards. We need to teach kids to be nice to everyone, especially to those who seem to be different, and that will work its way out to, say, boys who appear soft. Also, the schools that emphasize “tolerance” towards LGBT kids become extremely intolerant to moral Christian kids and others who differ with gay activism. Are you unaware of this, or do you share in this extreme intolerance yourself?

    You write, “But now imagine for a second that you are a teenager back in school and all of a sudden you come to the realization that you are gay. I know you’re not, but imagine just for a second. Imagine you actually are the worst thing that you could possibly be. And you know it isn’t a phase. You know you can’t change it–through prayer or any other means.”

    This is where the myth begins. Surveys have shown that many teens who identify as gay as teens realize as they get older that they are not actually homosexual, so this sudden realization is not necessarily accurate. And even if it were accurate, these kids need to meet ex-gays (you may deny their existence, but I personally know a good number of them, and they are truly changed people) and to find out about the possibility of change. Yet gay activists will fight with all their might to stop kids from being exposed to this, banning any distribution of materials or sharing of views to school kids that change is possible. This itself is outrageous.

    You continue: “ And you know of no gay people out there who are living decent, family oriented lives like the one you want to live. That right there is why so many of our young American children are still taking their lives. Because of the way they were born.”

    First, the most wonderful, decent, family oriented gay couple is not the same as an equivalent heterosexual couple, and there’s no way this person can live the life he dreams about with a same-sex partner for many obvious reasons. Moreover, there’s far more promiscuity among same-sex couples (particularly men) and far higher rates of STD’s. Aren’t we being cruel to these kids not to share this information with them?

    Second, kids who take their lives do so for many reasons, and gay teen suicides, as tragic as they are, represent only a small portion of teen suicides. Why don’t we hear about the rest of them on the news all the time? And why aren’t fat kids, who are probably bullied more than gay kids, taking their lives at the same rates?

    Third, no one is born gay. Same sex attractions are certainly not chosen, in the vast majority of cases, but there remains no reputable scientific evidence that anyone is born gay.

    You wrote: “Now imagine that while learning about amazing artists like Michelangelo, or Da Vinci or poets like Walt Whitman or maybe even President James Buchanan or even George W. Bush’s reelection campaign manager and chair of the RNC Ken Mehlman you learned that these people were also gay. Maybe then you would know that you could live a worthwhile wholesome and virtuous life and you wouldn’t feel the need to take such drastic action. Even if you think the behavior is a sin, wouldn’t even Christ, especially Christ, do what he could to keep children from falling so far into despair that they would take their own life?”

    Again, there’s debate about the sexuality of these men, but let’s say that a teen realizes that he’s attracted to younger boys. Of course, he knows he can’t act on this, but perhaps, using your same argument, he should be taught in school that some of the great Greek philosophers who were also pederasts? That some of these other men whom you mention were also pederasts? Perhaps, using your argument, this would help them not to commit suicide?

    You see, you simply can’t make the argument you’re making without crossing a line that you will not cross. In the same way, you need to recognize that I and countless others will not cross the line of justifying or celebrating or normalizing homosexual practice, even with the alleged benefit of reducing teen homosexual suicides.

    Instead, these kids need to be told in private counseling (not in class settings, that, to repeat, have no business discussing the sexual proclivities of these famous historical figures) that there are plenty of people who felt the way they did who no longer have same-sex attractions and, more importantly, they need to understand that there is hope for their lives regardless of what sexual desires they have. Also, according to stats I have read from suicide experts, 90% of kids who take their own lives have underlying psychological problems, and these should be focused on, rather than affirming a child’s sexual desires.

    As for Jesus, he would do what he always does: Reach out to us in His love, draw us close rather than push us away, and then offer us complete transformation to the core of our being by His power.

    Now, a question for you, Ryan: First, do you realize that the Lord calls you to holiness more than to heterosexuality? Second, if the Lord showed you that he could change you and you would no longer have same-sex attractions and desires, would you accept this gift from him?

  24. Not to detract from the mainstream of response here, but, Thos. Jefferson did not “rape” his slaves, per se. On his wife’s deathbed she asked him to agree to not remarry. Thereafter Thos. Jefferson retained a covenant relationship pledged mutually before God with one woman, who was of a slave family of his Plantation, not prior “known” in the Biblical sense. He remained faithful to her, as he had with his deceased spouse. His former spouse had placed him in a double bind of respecting her wishes and not formally remarrying. Also, he came to completely acknowledge the need for Salvation through the Cross of Christ after his spouse passed on, whereas prior he was considered a deist, as was John Adams.

  25. The complexities of cultural law also affected the Jefferson/Sally Hemmings relationship. By Va. law it was not possible for a slave to marry any Va. citizen. Jefferson, champion of liberty and order–sponsor of the Lewis and Clark Expedition too–was 46 when his wife died, and he both honored her request and qualified for then present concubinal and unmarried spousal sibling priveledge, for Sally H. was his wife’s half sister as well. He was in all measures still a young man, requiring spousal provision. Sally did work domestically in Jefferson’s beloved Montecello home, and they remained faithful for over 30 years of cocommitment.

    Within the boundaries of then present society’s law he provided for all his offspring, and for those of possiblity to train in trades. His was a society of order based on ideations of the European model of order, yet with the new found notions of liberty Jefferson is famous as composer of. It would not be until the JFK/Johnson Presidencies and by MLK’s nonviolent (both Sermon on the Mount and Gandhi inspired) noncooperation with slavery’s leftover injustices, carrying from the post-Civil War era Jim Crow laws, that Jefferson’s ideals would be placed for everyman in the USA.

    Before God he covenanted with Sally Hemmings, and was finally converted in heart to acceptance in the beloved by grace through faith. It is known that the then Hemmings family held faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ as vital to establishment of a future relationship with God and His Kingdom.

  26. Point of fact correction. Jefferson was 39 when his wife died.

  27. [...] Predictably, some far right pundits want to make this about homosexual predation. To my knowledge, no adult male has come forward with stories of gay relationships. If anything, Sandusky was living the straight lifestyle. Haters gonna hate and so culture warriors will use whatever they can get to make points. These armchair advocates are not worth the effort. [...]

  28. “…gays point to ancient Greece and to famous pederasts of the past…”

    SOME gays may point to ancient Greece and to famous pederasts of the past. If so, then they are wrong to do so. I certainly don’t.

    Certainly some teenagers who think that they are gay may come to the realisation that they aren’t gay after all. Others will find that they are indeed gay. Whatever, they should not be told that there is anything wrong with being gay. There isn’t. They certainly shouldn’t be introduced to the “ex-gay” movement, any more than they should be introduced to other forms of fraud.

    “no one is born gay.”

    That is not a fact, so you should not state it as though it were. We don’t know whether anyone is born gay or not. We don’t know for certain the cause(s) of either homosexuality or heterosexuality.

  29. @Guglielmo — Yes is has been proven that it is “a fact no one is born gay”.

    Here’s research for you to read over. The lies of the ‘homosexual gene’ have been debunked.

    http://fathersforlife.org/gay_issues/gay_gene.htm
    http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=528376
    http://www.trueorigin.org/gaygene01.asp
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1160065/posts
    http://www.cwfa.org/images/content/bornorbred.pdf
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=97940

    Homosexuality is a choice one makes.

  30. it is so interesting to read all this information, dr brown thank you for your work. i think all people who believe in the power of our lord should also know that when we decide to follow christ we do so with the knowledge of suffering a transformation in our lives and all that we loved doin will have to be surrender to God. be it sex, alcohol, drugs, fighting, killing, robing , knowledge, stupidity, homosexuality or whattever it may be and ask the lord to show us how to live our life right, according to his plan. i a drug addict, alcohol addict, sex addict, attracted to violence, i surrendered my life to the Lord and asked him to help me live right, and he did and i couldnt be happier. i think the problem is that as people we are so ignorant and so stubborn that we want to be saved but under our own rules and conditions but the clue in coming to be in the walk with God is to ” surrender and be born again” some want the best of both worlds and thats plain dumb. lets surrender our life to the lord and have him show us our new path and if we pay close attention its totally different to the one we have walked.

  31. I respectfully suggest that you get up to date, Kajun Mann. The idea of a gay gene has now long been abandoned: it is now recognized that IF there are any genetic factors in sexual orientation, they won’t be traceable to one single gene. (There is no single gene determining skin colour or eye colour either.) But genes are not the only possible reason why people might be born with their sexual orientation already programmed; there might be other pre-natal factors, e.g. hormonal influences in the womb. None of this proves that people ARE born gay, of course – or, for that matter, that people are born straight. We just don’t know for certain, one way or the other. As an eminent New York psychiatrist put it, “The truth is, we don’t know; nobody knows; and anybody who says that they do know is lying to you.”

    As for your assertion that homosexuality is a choice that one makes, that is divorced from reality. People can and do choose their sexual BEHAVIOUR, but no-one chooses their sexual ORIENTATION, whether that orientation be heterosexual, homosexual or bi-sexual, and whether or not they are born with it. They discover it. The vast majority of people discover that they are heterosexual, which is invariably what they and their families had always expected and had probably always taken for granted. A minority discover, even if they had never expected it and whether they like it or not – and most initially don’t and have to learn to adjust to it – that they are homosexual (or bi-sexual). I won’t try to speak for women, but most gay males, at any rate, become fully aware of their sexual orientation at the same stage of life that straight males become fully aware of theirs, i.e. in adolescence – the very period of life when the desire to be exactly like the majority of one’s peers and the dread of being or appearing different are at their height. Unless you are singularly lacking in imagination and insight, a little serious thought will show you that your suggestion of “choice” is simply ludicrous.

  32. The false notion that people are born homosexuals and lesbians because its in their genes is utter nonsense. Even the world foremost genetic authorities, including Craig Venter, Francis Collins, David Buchner and others have now acknowledged that scientists understand “very little” of what happens at the genetic level, as its largely still an “unresolved” puzzle, or black box.

    Meaning, that no one has the foggiest notion as to whether homosexuality is actually in the genes. It’s all unsustainable hype. One could equally argue that they are genetically orientated or predisposed to carry MILK CARTONS under their armpits.

  33. Well MB when they start rounding up Christians 4 reading the bible as hate speech u will be 1 of the 1st arrests and that will be a badge of honor 4 u in heaven. I have been critical of u in what are really some small petty trivial ways in the past compared to the evil we are now up against. And 4 that I apologize because @ this late hour u are one of the only ones @ the fore front of this battle. In fact I wouldnt know what I know without your research.
    Sodom & GAmerica the pitiful.
    Most Christians are playing trivial pursuit or sound asleep.
    As John Lennon said “while my congregation gently sleeps”.
    Many love God 4 his gifts not God 4 himself.
    Although there are things u & I dont agree on I admire u greatly and would ask 4 your forgiveness for some of the stupid things I may have posted in the past. My heart felt prayers are with u & thanku 4 having the courage 2 be so outspoken about the truth that needs 2 be heard………………………PEACE B2U

  34. John Heininger, you wrote

    “Meaning, that no one has the foggiest notion as to whether homosexuality is actually in the genes.”

    Precisely. That being so, you are not in position to say that “The false notion that people are born homosexuals and lesbians because its [sic] in their genes is utter nonsense.” We don’t know whether it’s true or false. We don’t know whether it’s nonsense or not. Different people have different opinions on the subject, but that’s all they are – opinions, theories, beliefs. No-one actually KNOWS.

    What we do know is that people do not choose their sexual orientation – although they can choose how they express it or whether or not to express it at all – and that while there are exceptional instances in which people’s sexual orientation changes of its own accord (this happens more often to women, far more rarely to men), deliberate attempts to engineer such a change are a sheer waste of time and nervous energy.

  35. caucazhin, thanks for the kind words, and of course, all apologies are fully and totally accepted. Jesus will be exalted in this hour!

  36. Meaning, that no one has the foggiest notion as to whether homosexuality is actually in the genes. It’s all unsustainable hype. One could equally argue that they are genetically orientated or predisposed to carry MILK CARTONS under their armpits.

    John, when did you decude to become a heterosexual?

  37. Dear Dr. Brown,

    May I put this article on our homepage (we have an international Christian ex-gay ministry called Jason which is affiliated to Homosexuals Anonymous)? Thanks in advance.

    Thanks also for your awesome DVDs and the book you have written on same-sex attractions. Especially the DVDs are a great help and a resource I very much recommend!

    If I may add something: The cover of your book “A Queer Thing Happened to America” is completely inappropriate. It almost ridicules people with same-sex attractions, I know that this is in no way your intention, but it kind of seems to reflect at first look the old prejudice that all men with same-sex attractions are effeminate, wear women’s clothes and are to be mocked because of that. I am sure there are better covers than that. I do hope, however, that this cover picture does not prevent anyone from reading this book, as you have a lot to say that the world needs to hear!

    Finally, I would like to add that your other books and the DVDs you published so far have had a tremendous impact on me and other people I know. They have greatly helped me to follow Christ in a more radical and bold way and also to stand up for my faith.

    God bless,

    Robert
    Munich, Germany

    P.S.: If there ever is anything I can do for you over here, feel free to let me know! My phone number (for calls from the USA): 011-49-89-78018960.

    Robert Gollwitzer
    Ridlerstr. 21
    80339 Munich
    Germany

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